Friday, November 23, 2012

Obama Administration to Go After Retirement Accounts

Obama Administration to Go After Retirement Accounts


Obama Administration to Go After Retirement Accounts
posted on November 23, 2012 by Gary DeMar348 Comments


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When threats of Communism were in the news, books were written at a feverish pace reminding us of the insidious nature of the beast. There were the “useful idiots” who praised communism, but they were few and far between. But there were others who believed that while communism was something we did not want to imitate, we could work with communists for common ends.
There were always warnings, however, that you can trust the communists . . . to be communists. In fact, there was a book by that title written by Fred Schwarz in 1960: You Can Trust the Communists (to be Communists) when it came to their allies, intellectual dishonesty, education, children and literature, brainwashing and language, the manipulation of truth, relativism, and the use of the term “peace.” Communists were always going to be communists no matter how much wishful thinking hoped to believe otherwise.
In a similar way, you can trust liberals to always be liberals or progressives. They will always push taxing and spending policies. We’re seeing more of the consistency of liberals in their call from removing the debt ceiling and the daily insistence that taxes must be raised in the rich so they can pay their “fair share,” a plank, by the way, that’s taken right out of the Communist Manifesto.
But there’s only so much money that can be squeezed out of the wealthy. The money has to come from somewhere to fund the liberal version of Utopia. Inflation, increasing the money supply via the printing press, can do long-term damage to the economy.
When liberals agreed to set up retirement accounts where taxation could be postponed, a lot of people were skeptical. Why would any liberal agree to such a thing? Now we’re beginning to hear rumblings about the possibility that the Obama administration is looking at the trillions of dollars of potential revenue in these accounts as Jeff Berwick is warning us:


“[T]he National Seniors Council has announced that ‘Obama (has) Begun to Push for a New National(ized) Retirement System.’ According to them, a recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRAs and 401k plans.”
Who will object to such a takeover? Certainly the people who have money in these accounts, but not the people who don’t. The appeal will be made to the 51 percent who voted for Obama. “Why should the wealthy have what you can’t afford to participate in?,” promoters of the takeover will argue.
Retirement funds will be in the same category as Social Security, collected and managed by the State. Is there historical precedent for this type of statist action? You bet there is:
“In late 2010 Hungary’s government gave its citizens a choice: hand over all their savings to the government or lose all their state pension money. The government sought control over Hungarians’ $14 billion in individual retirement accounts. The Bulgarian government did something very similar when it tried to transfer $300 million in private early retirement savings into a state pension scheme. They only managed to get roughly 20% of the funds they sought. Last year Ireland raided the private stash in the National Pension Reserve Fund with a 0.6% levy under the label of a ‘jobs plan’ in order to bail out insolvent Irish banks.”
Liberals will never change. You can trust them always to believe and act as liberals, that is, liberal with other people’s money. None of it is really ours. We only get to keep what they allow us to keep.


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Screeminmeeme • 10 hours ago
Maybe seniors should withdraw everything from their accounts and stuff it in their mattresses. At least it wouldn't be accessible to the gov....but we'd be trading interest for security. It's something many of my friends are considering.

''Who will object to such a takeover? Certainly the people who have money in these accounts, but not the people who don’t. The appeal will be made to the 51 percent who voted for Obama. “Why should the wealthy have what you can’t afford to participate in?,” promoters of the takeover will argue.''

Yep....that's how half of America thinks.

Misery loves company and instead of using hard work and determination to pull themselves out of their dependency and entitlement lifestyle, those Obamazombies who live in poverty would rather drag the industrious producers down to their level by supporting the gov's move to steal their 401k's/IRAs. It's the old steal-from-the-rich-give-to-the-poor Robin Hood argument.
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Carol Fryer  Screeminmeeme • 7 hours ago
When they go around to collect the guns they will simply search for your money. Better have a good spot.
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Mike  Carol Fryer • 7 hours ago
Better be a good shot is more appropriate.
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Phillip_in_TX  Mike • 6 hours ago
Happiness is: "Hitting your target!"
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Jim L Adrian  Phillip_in_TX • 2 hours ago
amen
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The Mutt  Mike • 6 hours ago
They better come prepared for a fight!
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Shell  The Mutt • 5 hours ago
Mutt, they will be prepared in a massive group, remember the "have nots" who haven't worked, been diligent and saved will be the army against those that "have" who have worked and saved, and even if you have a gun they will have more extensive weaponry, that by the way your taxes helped to produced, and their helmets will be blue (UN), consequently if you haven't amassed an army you will have no defense.
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OldNYFirefighter  Shell • 5 hours ago
Don't bet on it. We may not have tanks or miniguns, but we have ingenuity on our side. If the Taliban can build IED's I am sure we can also, as most of us are educated far beyond the Taliban or Al Quida. Blue targets, I mean helmets are easy to see & are better than a small bulls eye or big game.
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essayons7071@hotmail.com  OldNYFirefighter • 43 minutes ago
Ever heard of "Combat Engineers", now called Sappers?? We learned way too much, and, i don't think any of us has actually ever surrendered our FM 5-34's. I have one for each of my family. Great manual, and can easily be accessed at the GPO site, as are maps, at the. Gov web site. Many defense and survival manuals there that the MIL still claim are the Combat Troop's Bibles.
I am, and have been ready since Carter.
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Johnny Geetar  Shell • 4 hours ago
Shell you grossly overestimate their abilities, and grossly UNDER estimate ours. Maybe YOU fear them, most of us do not. Remember, over 100 MILLION gun owners and over 320 million firearms at our disposal. Once word got out they were on the move & kicking in doors, every neighborhood and highway, every town, every city in America would become a killing zone for them. I don't care WHAT they're packing; 100 to 1 against semi-autos, you're dead meat.

Further, if they pass gun confiscation laws, an administrative collection will fail miserably. (Administrative collection, as in you have 30 or 60 days to surrender your firearms at designated collection sites or face penalties) A few limp-wrists may turn them over, but the vast majority of the populace are smart enough NOT to. Folks are spending every last dime they have on firearms right now. Trust me; they AIN'T doing it to give those firearms over because Obama doesn't like them. If they come for money or guns or both, be they national guard, regular military, UN troops or local law enforcement tac squads, it's game on, and they will be chewed to pieces. Remember, 100 million gun owners means about 100 million homes to invade. You think they got that kind of manpower amongst them, or support amongst the populace? You give them way more credence than they warrant.....
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don  Johnny Geetar • 2 hours ago
what you say sounds good but in reallity you will be on your own. it sad but we are a weak nation of god less people.most people are buying gun for the riots they think are coming not the goverment.
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Jude O'Connor  Johnny Geetar • an hour ago
Check the gun in the house law in Kennesaw County Georgia.
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Friscolady  Shell • 4 hours ago
Blue Helmet just make better targets.
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dndvaughn  Shell • 2 hours ago
shell, id rather die shooting 'UN' guys who don't belong heree than fold under to this darm half black man...
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Nunyer Binnis  Shell • 3 hours ago
Blue helmets look best full of holes.
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Billy Hill  Nunyer Binnis • an hour ago
Good for fence post caps along my driveway,with a nail hole middle front..
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rekdr  Shell • an hour ago
Does this mean we should not stand our ground, if you don't you are a chicken s***. Better dead than red. They can only kill one of me and I bet I get more than one of them. They wont bring the big guns until a few of the pigs get killed so stand up and fight.
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Raymond  The Mutt • 4 hours ago
They will be.
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craig  Mike • 7 hours ago
we are
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Nunyer Binnis  Mike • 3 hours ago
Head shots. Make 'em count.
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fatman45  Carol Fryer • 7 hours ago
Carol you are so right! They will also confisscate your food stores.
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Raymond  fatman45 • 4 hours ago
Obama the muslim & his supporters
want everything you have.
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Joy Bears mom  Raymond • 3 hours ago
Raymond....There are the "haves" and the have nots....and the have nots are the ones who reelected the jerk....and now everyone EXCEPT the have nots have to support the country. JUst look at who voted for the Half black so called president and it tells the whole story! Look who is sitting warm and comfortable in the white h ouse over thanksgiving with servants and PLENTY of gourmet food......and who is supporting the kids and the grandma?? Wonder how all those poor people wiped out by the flood and eating in soup kidchens for Thanksgiving are thanking the numbskull for all they have lost. Even BO is eating better than they are!
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Raymond  Joy Bears mom • 3 hours ago
Obama the muslim was put back in office
by the electoral vote, not the popular vote.
Oh, let's remember that massive voter fraud
enters into all of this.
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Sniper  Raymond • 3 minutes ago
The commie Soros spent a lot of money to get this ######## back in office.
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Raymond  Sniper • a minute ago
Yes he did.
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DixieAngel_76  fatman45 • 5 hours ago
You should always keep those buried in a "midnight gardner" type of container.
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Phillip_in_TX  Carol Fryer • 7 hours ago
They won't be collecting much money; however, lead is a much different story.
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Don  Carol Fryer • 6 hours ago
These useful idiots in our Government aren't stupid in the sense that they don't have a back-up plan, and my best guess is that the Feds will print, and distribute different currency notes, rendering the DOLLAR worthless. Burying your dollars won't do you any good. Their intent is to not let the citizenry outsmart them. About three years ago there was a RUMOR that the US Government had already printed the Amiridollar, have them stashed in secure vaults, and ready for distribution on order. This may, or may not be true, and i don't want to sound like an alarmist, but it is very possible since there is talk of confiscating all retirement accounts.
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outspokeninutah  Don • 2 hours ago
that is what hitler did, you had to turn in all your money and everyone got the same amount in the new marks.
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Feelinlikeadufus  Don • 3 hours ago
I've seen photos of the new currency. You can probably google it.

This overthrow has been WELL thought out and planned. They got a lot of practice in finances in Europe and fighting in the middle east. We will look like they did. We've handed our enemies our satelite technology, our incredible weaponry, our financial system, and now our whole government. Yeah, it'll be a hell of a fight. How do I pick off that drone that's 12 miles away from me, being operated by a little 14 year old fukwad in China, before he get's me?
George Soros, the muslims, and the media will be cheering him on.
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cactusbob  Don • 4 hours ago
A good "currency" for your former 401(k)'s and IRAs is gold and/or silver coins, well-concealed but available for use. No off-shore accounts in other currencies are needed, and gold and silver won't depreciate like dollars will. Or so I've heard.
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outspokeninutah  cactusbob • 2 hours ago
but again as done under hitler, ONLY the new mark was acceptable....not gold, silver or jewels
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Mort Leith  Carol Fryer • 4 hours ago
I would LOVE to see them come up to N Georgia in the mountains and even TRY to take ANYTHING from us... it would be hilarious.,
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DixieAngel_76  Mort Leith • 4 hours ago
Don't ever think you're untouchable just because you live in a remote area. You're not. All they have to do is drop a few strategic bombs to block roads and passes out of the area, and from there they can take their time finding you. Than old saying "united we stand, divided we fall" has never been more relevant than it is today, and this corrupt, evil government knows it. They have spent the last four years dividing America like never before, also letting in millions of illegal immigrants who have no loyalty to America anyway. This has all been a part of their plan from the beginning.
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Raymond  DixieAngel_76 • 4 hours ago
Only God can stop them & He will
in His own time.
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Raymond  Mort Leith • 4 hours ago
I know you don't believe this but
they are prepared to do just that.
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feelinlikeadufus  Mort Leith • 3 hours ago
They'll just send an Apache.
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DixieAngel_76  Carol Fryer • 5 hours ago
Hide your guns too.
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PMM  DixieAngel_76 • 5 hours ago
Why do you think they bought all those hollow point bullets (they can't use them anywhere but in the United States since they are outlawed everywhere else). Also consider the fact they have some 18 to 24 year olds working for homeland security that they trained (and when you see pictures of them holding guns, the pictures don't look a whole lot different from the children in Gaza that are taught to hate and kill. This administration has done so many things that should have scared people enough to get rid of him, but the draw of free stuff won over and our country lost and those of us who care lost our country. I know where the Obamas of this world spend their eternities............................
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Military Patriot  DixieAngel_76 • 5 hours ago
I disagree. If it comes to the point of having to hide your guns, then it's time to use your guns against the oppressor.
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DixieAngel_76  Military Patriot • 4 hours ago
Yes, use your guns, but always hide some spares in case.
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Raymond  Carol Fryer • 4 hours ago
It's not called "theft" when the government
does it.
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Sarge tom  Carol Fryer • 3 hours ago
Thats where they will die.
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Raymond  Sarge tom • 3 hours ago
They government is prepared for
such reactions.
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Jude O'Connor  Carol Fryer • an hour ago
Do you think those millions of hollow point cartridges were for hunting?
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vicki  Screeminmeeme • 7 hours ago
"....but we'd be trading interest for security."

What interest? That 0.1% typical of savings?
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PMM  vicki • 5 hours ago
And Vicki, you will never see any money you worked, saved and did without to save. They spent the social security money they robbed people of, and you may rest assured another Nancy Pelosi will look and see that money and they will end up spending every dime while safe guarding their own retirements....................
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PMM  vicki • 5 hours ago
He who trades his freedom for a little security, deserves neither!
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Raymond  PMM • 4 hours ago
Ineptocracy -

A system of government where the least
capable to lead are "elected" by the least
capable of producing, and where the members
of society least likely to sustain themselves or
succeed, are rewarded with goods and services
paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing
number of producers.
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