Saturday, March 24, 2012

Thousands to Facebook Marine: We’ve got your back

Thousands to Facebook Marine: We’ve got your back


Marine Sgt. Gary Stein
The White House may not be happy about Marine Sgt. Gary Stein’s Facebook fan page criticizing the commander in chief, but the social media have embraced him, making his page a beehive of conversation and soaring his “likes” count to over 21,000 and growing.
Stein’s Armed Forces Tea Party pagewas founded in April 2010 as a way to give even active military members a forum for voicing opposition to the Obama administration’s allegedly unconstitutional actions.
Stein’s first post discussed politicians’ plans to repeal Obamacare and was followed the next day by post quoting Theodore Roosevelt: “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
But Stein’s assertions of free speech on Facebook – coming from an active duty Marines officer – have become a springboard for controversy.
The page is filled with comments from some cheering him on with the Marine motto, “Semper Fidelis,” while others are calling him a “traitor.”
The military has also taken notice, beginning an investigation that could lead to Stein’s dismissal from the Marine Corps.
As the Associated Press reported, Stein’s commanding officer ordered a preliminary inquiry after receiving allegations that Stein had posted political statements about Obama and declared he would not follow unlawful orders from the commander in chief.
According to Pentagon directives, the AP continued, military personnel in uniform cannot sponsor a political club; participate in any TV or radio program or group discussion that advocates for or against a political party, candidate or cause; or speak at any event promoting a political movement. Commissioned officers also may not use contemptuous words against senior officials, including the president.
If found in violation of military rules, Stein could face both discharge and having his rank reduced to lance corporal.
On the Facebook page, Stein claims he has already been removed from his job at the Marine Corps Recruiting Depot in San Diego and given a desk post with no access to computers.
“I’m completely shocked that this is happening,” Stein said earlier this week. “I’ve done nothing wrong. I’ve only stated what our oath states, that I will defend the Constitution and that I will not follow unlawful orders. If that’s a crime, what is America coming to?”
Shortly thereafter, Stein posted a public statement on the site (edited for grammar and spelling):
“I swore an oath to obey the orders of the president … but those orders must be lawful,” Stein writes. “It is the duty of each and every service member to know the difference between an unlawful and lawful order. We need to educate our service members on the Constitution. Just following orders is not a defense when having to answer for following unlawful orders.
“The allegations drummed up against me are no more than an agenda by the Marine Corps to use me as an example,” he continues. “I have never spoken on behalf of the Marine Corps or in uniform. I have stayed within guidelines DOD Directive 1344.10 and made sure to. If I am guilty of anything it would be that I am American, a freedom loving conservative, hell bent on defending the Constitution and preserving America’s greatness.”
The Marine Corps, the AP reports, said Stein is allowed to express his personal opinions as long as they do not give the impression he is speaking in his official capacity as a Marine.
Notably, the Facebook page at the heart of the controversy states clearly at the top, “We do not represent, and are in no way affiliated with the military, or United States Armed Forces.”
The page describes its purpose is to “offer a forum that will allow the voices of the U.S. Armed Forces to stand with the tea-party movement and be heard.”
It asserts, “Our Armed Forces place their life on the line for political agendas every day; is it common sense to think that they should have no opinion about what they are potentially sacrificing their lives for? We say no! Let them be heard.”
Among the 21,000-plus people who have “liked” Stein’s page and the many more who have commented at Armed Forces Tea Party are a wide range of opinions.
“Gary, Americans support our First Amendment right to free speech,” writes poster Maureen Taylor. “We support you and defend your rights. Semper Fidelis, my friend!”
A man claiming to be a Marine veteran and posting under the moniker Jamaica Jim asserts, “The military is here to defend democracy, not practice it. … This is blatant insubordination of an active duty Marine.”
“I have the deepest respect for Sgt. Stein. I’m just not sure he’s going about this the right way,” posited a poster calling herself Sugar Babet. “It didn’t work out so well for Col. Lakin. This administration likes to strong arm people. I will be praying for you.”
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, a career Army soldier, eventually faced court martial for refusing to obey orders from a commander in chief he believed ineligible to hold the office of president. During his court martial, Lakin was not allowed to call witnesses or present evidence regarding his reason for disobeying orders. Under the burden imposed by the judge, he was convicted of missing a movement and disobeying orders and served six months in the military prison at Ft. Leavenworth.
A licensed physician in Maryland, Lakin was also denied license to practice medicine in Kansas following his release.

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  • You candy-ass Liberals wont be re-electing Obama this year. There is hell to pay at the polls in November!
  • Bill
    Well, it appears that most Military Commanders are drinking the same kool-aide from Obama's bucket. That being said, bet over half these Military Commanders can not even remember the Oath they Sworn/Pleged to obey.
  • glenn47
    For all you loyal vets out there and your supporters, go to you tu-- and put in for the song " I Am America?" A real feel good moment.
    Thank you for your service.
  • John Sikokis
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    "What do you expect when a Kenyan is Commander in Chief? Heil, Obama!"
    Well maybe if Sgt. Stein took the oath in Swahili it would be a different matter..........
  • FirstShirt US Army, Retired Vietnam Vet Cold War Vet
    "I, (state your name), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
    In this particular instance there is a contradiction of terms.   ...support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;... versus, ...I will obey the orders of the President of the United States...
    Of course, since the current occupant of the White House is not the prodigy of two citizens of the United States, he is not qualified to hold the office of President.
  • John Sikokis
    It's interesting to note that "supporting and defending the Constitution" precedes "following the orders of the President and the officers appointed over him".  I would assume that it wasn't just happenstance that it was written in that particular order............
  • eingriff
    Military personnel should be aware that Obama has not verified his constitutional eligibility. Hence they might not be operating under duly constituted authority under the Geneva Convention.
    They should also be aware that Obama is probably a Comintern mole, who can be expected to cause orders to be issued to implement subversive strategies of his actual principals for the subjugation and destruction of the United States, and evisceration of the Bill of Rights of the People. These are unlawful orders.
  • "Commissioned officers also may not use contemptuous words against senior officials, including the president."
    Stein is a non-com, or doesn't Drew Zahn understand what sort of rank sergeant is? But Zahn is still in trouble. No can do. His behavior is forbidden, under the UCMJ. With all of these "patriots" on the board here, you'd think they''d all know that.
    Nicholas Stix
  • John Sikokis
    Well therein lies the problem doesn't it?  The issue isn't really the use of contemptuous words as much as it is who they are directed at?  Is it THE President or someone pretending to be him?  If this Marine is being asked to be going into harm's way then it better be by someone who is authorized to do so.  I really don't think that that's asking so much for what it ultimately might cost.............
  • obombers military likes queers better than it likes real guys.
    What a fluke. The true decent guys we need are the bad guys, and the real bad guys are the protected species. Just like the good book predicted.

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